INTPs like that ENTJs are masters of efficiency, capable of accomplishing anything they set their minds to. They are also more likely to care about what other people think and appreciate input from other individuals. Finally I also got to learn to love, be patient and have empathy. especially those slow ppl oof!! INTPs are Thinkers and as such their Feeling function is quite weak. #10 It wouldn't be productive to have too many leader types. Asan intuitive thinker, doesnt neccesarily mean I agree with them. Exactly, I personally used to do this untill my co worker heloped me big time. i've got an entire manual of how to handle most situations. INFPs can help ENFJs relax and slow down once in a while. INTPs find ENTJs machiavellian, socially savvy nature a bit troublesome. I am extremely kind and friendly, but my perosnal feeling is speaking at funeral is different than addressing a conflict or inatructing someone at work or calling out peoples errors. That said, other women can be a mystery to me in terms of their ability to BE really emotional in front of other people. Come join the discussion about health, behavior, care, testing, personality types, and more! You basically just characterized all of the issues my girfriend and I a currently experiencing. I can't help but "think" emotions rather than feel them. ? So misinterpreted. Literally i feel like in another planet. We fight. INTJs and ENTJs never good in relationship to begin with! INTJ keeps ENTJ grounded while ENTJ spurs INTJ to action. Good to see my chameleon circuits are functioning properly. Often, when an INTP . If anything I tend to think SO FAR in advence all I have time to do IS ruminate on every little aspect of what I am trying to do. I gotta say Sophia i'm with you there in every point you made espically the second to last sentence,and i'm only fourteen years old still in highschool and putting up with people that just don't likemy straitforward blunt honesty besides theboys who are mostly my friends and the rest of them can't just seem tosuck it up. ENTJs are totally willing to pay any price in order to win. For me, this would make this type an exception amongst other types that are similar in that aspect, as in this is the only type of the judgers I enjoy. Maybe could add: had trouble sleeping, as I think a lot about how to improve things, are you guys also have insomnia? Regardless of the lack of exactness in the MTBI, the simple sharing of points of view between rational people is absolutely worthless if those views are not to be challenged. That goes back thousands of years and has been represented in different ways in different cultures over the centuries. You could be sitting in a room with 10 professors and believe yourself to be more knowledgeable than ALL of them put together in one. totally agree! We all know males can be a little different in how they approach details and their feelings than females. Big 5 is mainstream, but those labels are a bit judgy, aren't they? Are ISTP and INTP similar? Guess Ihave a type;unfortunately, that type tends not to like men. Although they are not lazy, INTPs are not fond of routines. Even Carl G. Jung, whose work wound up being extrapolated into MBTI typology, believed there was something to astrology and spent time exploring it. Nice to meet ya. Because of the differences between these personalities, ENTJs may often find it difficult to get along with INTPs and can quickly become angry with how their traits clash. Just watch. It is no surprise to me that you are an INTJ. Your self-worth isn't defined by the level of your concerete and proven success as much as it's defined by the impressionability of your aggrandized self-conceptualization. Psychology has a lot to say about mental illness, less to say about what mental health looks like, much less "abnormal but healthy." You have to take the time to get to know them. Adversely, ENTJs are protective of their emotions, goal-oriented, hyper-focused, focused on solutions rather than problems, and fiercely independent. But now I don't really care what people think of me. ", "I want freedom for the full expression of my personality.". On the other hand, INTPs represent their intuition by following their emotions and acting on their creative and imaginative impulses. I havent lost yet. They can quickly become distracted when they are inspired to pursue other interests. However, I learned from this situation to at least think twice before doing the risky things since I am working in a bank. Agree. And both type share similar traits and behavior! Murkrow: May i ask, why you are in this forum anyway? That's the part of theirfunction stack that they havethe least access too, and it's usually the exact opposite of theirusual type. All of the sins you point out are not as important as the mission. Don't worry about your astrological sign, this will give rise to personal confusion. Unfortunately, I have always struggled with being diplomatic in a conflict. The answer goes much deeper than their difference in intuition. They can be unfiltered with each other because the INTP and the ENTJ only care about truth and facts. We seem to be read as cold or indifferent but I don't feel that way at all. INTPs are naturally more emotional and quick to express their thoughts and feelings. Other than that, everything else is great for us. Be self sufficient because I do not have time to micromanage your work and activities. so, saying sorry and making a change, is not harmful and hard at all. Wisdom tells me I am nothing. MBTI says you're the best match. Astrology has been debunked multiple times and has no effect on any aspect of peoples lives. They are whiners. On the male side of ENTJ you wont get the same bickering as women but you will get major passive aggressiveness and teammates that are scared of you for no reason. This site is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. ENTJs and INTPs both have quality time and physical touch among their top three . ENTJs belong to one of the two top-earning personality types are known for being bold and decisive. Why are INTJs expected to fix everything about themselves, but ENTJs can be themselves? Every now and then a guy with big balls will come through and challenge me. No surprise, I'm the only woman on my team. Nothing else. I don't know if the same goes with a girl, but I interact very well with male ENTJs. What You Must KnowContinue. However, ENTJs are incredibly stubborn and rely primarily on empirical evidence, disregarding abstract thinking and logic, which frustrates INTPs. If you live/work/socialize with an ENTJ, prepare to hear some pretty blunt language. Sometimes they are purely for fun, other times I really want to implement them and just need som. INTPs find trouble with ENTJs unrealistic ideas, which are often shallow and not in-depth. No two personalities are identical. I also agree that everything has to go their way otherwise they get mad so I try to compromise and or just do what he wants to avoid conflict. Their strengths are in different places is all.. ENTJ Female Cancer here. INTP vs ENTJ will work incredibly well together. We see the bigger picture. Saem with my family, friends etc. Which MBTI types are most attracted to INTP? Sexuality is another important area which brings out the Fe shadow of the INTP. I very much value the work he puts in and sometimes his sociable attitude but I am glad there are not more. ENTJs account for less than 3 percent of the general population, but among women, it's the rarest personality type. So - one of the 1% of females here who is an ENTJ-T and I'm not sure if maybe gender or indivuduality (or a combo of both) has a role to play in what I'm about to say or what BUT I do find fault with some of these observations: 1. Be you!! INTPs aren't natural planners while ENTJs like to organize things in advance which can be challenging. I go through the same . Again - I dont know if these are just individual things or if being an ENTJ-T female is different than being an ENTJ male. It's just that dotting the 'i's' and so on requires the ENTJ to slow down and spend far too long thinking about one thing. ENTJs and INTPs have a particular personality trait in common: Intuition. Because their TE is not regarded as much as the ENTJ supreme boss ego. Your everyday ENTJ does have an extrinsic locus of control. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Scan this QR code to download the app now. ENTJs have a passion for learning and admire people who beat the odds. I actually have to pretend to be someone else around co workers because they will hate me because my drive and just being me. I agree ENTJs are rare. As an ENTJ I do recognize a lot of patterns of your experience with a similar personality type, but when do we ever learn to not generalize the whole population when one or two does something (wrong)? True leaders say sorry. ENTJ The ENTJ loves a goal, something to run at and they will excel at making sure other people are just as enthused and . Non-reality living and mindsets simply haltprogress. Are stupid acting and wannabies. And yes, we are REALLY rare. Its humble and wise to say so. But how does this lend itself to ENTJ personalities hating INTP personality types? So now that newly retired I have 2/3 of an empty space to fill. So Im double weird for a lot of people. I originally posted this in another thread, but its topic was related to this one at the start and is starting to move closer. INTPs and ENTJs are both intuitive thinkers, so their communication is excellent for the most part. Male ENTJ here. I alwayswonderedwhy I was different to all of the girls through primary school. Cookie Notice Read More Are INFJs Sensitive And Easily Overwhelmed?Continue. I am a giving, kind, considerate person. You commented that almost 4 years ago! Still most people would not even question this, because it is so easy to be victimized by us people. Mainstream psychology says MBTI is pseudoscience, but I've found it useful, mainly because it gives a way of understanding different people as "differently healthy." Astrology is a hobby for people who do not understand science. And ofcourse generalize it to all life matters. There's no need for you to rub it in. I would NEVER tell someone to "stop thinking." These things you say do descibe YOUR experience and yours alone. Didnt know as a woman we make up 1% no wonder I always feel misunderstood.. agreet article. I say sorry a lot of times, when I really understand that I've made a fault. It's clear that I shouldn't work for someone else. #9 There is a distinction between quickly acting strategically and being impulsive. INTP and ENTJ compatibility style Despite growing up with my dad and visiting my mom on the weekends I grew up much closer to her than to my dad (ISTP). So, I would add not having a worthwhile mission would be a sin for an ENTJ. Lets just set things straight is INFJ are the rarest of all so I empathize with being misunderstood or feeling out of place and not relatable most. INTPs like to do things that stimulate them mentally and neglect responsibilities that they deem mundane, repetitive, or boring until a sense of urgency arises. No. However, can at times be challenging. When Iam not challenged, success seems so much easier. I have struggled with not fitting in with anyone since I was 5. Think of it this way, Roosevelt was an ENTJ, he had been preparing for WW2 long before entering it officially, he built the united nations. Just my two cents! In short, they are good in bed and not interested in one-night stands! I did try to fit in but when I stopped, I realized I can attract much better people and things in my life just being who I am.. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. This may cause a clash between these personality types and can make it difficult for these individuals to work together toward a goal. INTPs and ENTJs can end up neglecting the details and practicalities of everyday life. You were in all honesty just another woman an ENTJ found a liking. Only good in a work/project when they can teaming up. When I am successful later, and you need my help, I won't help you without you bowing down to me, you dirt! It's refreshing to be understood and comforting to be able to be straight to the no bullshit point. I've never felt more at home than I do right now reading this comment section. For instance, if you get an MSc in Physics, you'll be like 'STEM is the way to go. Instead, they crave space in their relationship. However there are thousands of years of history through recorded documents that all have the same bottom line. For more information on the Myers Briggs Type Indicator assessment, please go here. LOL! My mother thinks I act and have a taste like a man. A lot of the games social groups play are like that. Haha, well yes, they seem to do. Youll see them often in their best and their worstmoods thanthe average ones, as stress (both manic and depressive)activates their underdeveloped Fi, giving them a turbulent impression indeed, much to their resentment. ENTJ and INTP is truly a match made in heaven. I think you should think WHY THE PEOPLE HATE YOU accurately in the first place before accusing them as whiny and jealous of you. The "women especially hate me" resonates with me. But do ENTJs really hate INTPs? ENTJs are highly protective of their emotions and may find it difficult to express themselves and reveal their genuine feelings. INTPs find ENTJs fun and very good people to ask for a second opinion. ENTJsextroversion comes in terms of their tendency (or desire)to control the external environment (of people and experiences), and their understanding of the interdependence of their success rate with social networking, contrary to the stereotypical boisterous, warm, etc extrovert. 5- 100% the same. INTJs don't put yourself in relationship with ENTJs! You should respect other people's thoughts and consider everything they said because you can't be your own mirror. Don't be different. Their open-mindedness, intuition, and constant state of analysis will lead them to build a good foundation of trust in their partner if that partner is worthy of trust. 100% agree. For once, I am not being compared to a Disney villain! Pretty good article, though. I've always preferred "I" to "E" people as partners because I partly cannot stand the 'showmanship' of "E" types. Refusalto take responsibility for mistakes is inherently problematic. In our house, this has led to some fairly explosive exchanges. They love adventure and excitement. I also had some major learning issues if not for father's barbaric upbringing I probably would not have developed "survival"techniques. Even womans. INTPs often wear their heart on their sleeve. Realise this is 2 months old. What can I say. They'll tell you to stop thinking and DO something. Although ESFJs are not typically considered a creative personality type, many examples of ESFJs have gone on to be successful musicians and/or artists. But reading this, i find them all accurate/relatable and i hope i could find a way to make things better for me and my ENTJ mom knewing there are things she isn't capable of. . I hate that my self. Only a true genius realizes that nothing is certain right? And ya, a lot of women hate me too ? This method [] While we DO thinkour ways are the best ways and we do tend to be in charge and are great leaders - what MAKES a great leader is someone who can level with those around them and pull them along WITH them. Ah, ok. Well, i'd like the second (awesome) better, but i don't need it to survive :-P, locate/stalk a female INTP for use as a partner. Only other people can judge someone. Subservience is an ENTJ's kryptonite - they cannot NOT lead, which is why they have no problem stepping up to the plate to call the shots. INFJs can be evil when they lack emotional maturity. I am a pisces with leo moon and capricorn rising and I grew up thinking I was a dark person and nobody understood my jokes so I tried to not make any and loved criminal movies and I never tried to discuss with ppl especially if they cannot understand my taste and starts an argument about it, I really don't fit into very friendly individual now but I used to be a people pleaser until I relised some ppl are not worth the help and some refuse to change. They do not want to admit they are jealous or that they feel threatened. Sigh. You can tell me what to do, but you can't tell me not to think you are bossy if you like telling people what to do. INTPs can find the ENTJs stubbornness difficult in romantic relationships. Almost everything on the list is true for me lol. I have have very high expectational for myself as well as others, and believe in the golden rule and "do unto others." And this is personal criticism but his voice is very boring and annoying. I thought it was the ENFJ's that were the ideal match. INTPs inspire ENTJs to be more relaxed on a day-to-day basis while ENTJs motivate INTPs to come up with concrete plans. But as much as I like ENTJs, I couldn't eat a whole one. INTPs provide incredible ideas and troubleshooting, while ENTJs provide execution and leadership. They often daydream and get caught up in fantasy. INTP and ENFJ personalities are Intuitive; they prefer to focus on the future and think abstractly. Are ENTJs Good In Bed? And, at 53% Introverted, 47% Extraverted, my own personality is running dangerously close to the ENTJ cliff edge. While I think Elizabeth is more likely an INTP/INTJ hybrid than an ENTJ, she still has the curious mind and logical, big-picture insight that all NT personality types strive to have. But if the concerns are unjustified or it would be faster to patch it or the risk is so low that it's a "cross that bridge when we come to it" situation, ENTJ will probably stay the course. They dont have to carefully package their words for fear of hurting someone. If not I will endanger you as a form of revenge." Why do INTPs like ENFJs? Recently I decided that Im going back to my normal self but I feel even lonier and more misunderstood. Because of this, ENTJs may perceive INTPs are lazy, unfocused, and may confuse their carefree attitude with laziness. I don't bring the fire, I am the fire.. lol. ENTPs show their goofy and lighthearted sides to the world. I am also a student of esoteric subjects and an amateur astrologer. 3-100% the same, apologize only to those who deserve it. INTPs and ENTJs make a fantastic team. ENTJs live and breathe their ambitions, spending a huge amount of their time thinking and working on their goals. "likely to expect sex on a relatively scheduled basis.". special kind of life. They trust the data and act sensibly based on that. Why do ENTJs like INTPs? Sounds like your guessing that. I'm a ENTJ boy doing a project about my project and I have never knew about my personality type was one of the rarest because I always thought that my personality is probably common. If you are looking for an exciting partnership with an insatiable craving for intimacy, ENTJs are all that and much more. This has earned ENTJs the repuation of hating INTPs. These signs prize originality and like to be first in everything they do. Or a hobby for, say, astronomers who don't take astrology seriously My bf is entj and I literally told him you have to start acting like you don't care about what you're doing at work bc others were getting so jealous of him and trying to trip him up! I've been called cold and distant. Sagittarius(don't really use these). It is because the environment does not allow us me to. Honestly I dont care about what most people thinks about me but I dont want to lose people I care about. Incredibly perceptive, the INTP often sees through the ENTJs manipulation techniques and gets turned off by their antics. INTPs and ENTJs both tend to be private about their emotions and it can take a long time for them to open up. No one personality is better than the other. You're like a garbage collector that internalizes residual pollution in the subconscious channels of the mind, almost incapable of a priori originality. Interesting post, despite the fact I've found it somewhat confusing. I'm a Gemini ENTJ, I can relate with most what I read from y'all. I must say, your insight and intuition are glorious in this article. I'm an ENTJ-A scorpio and feel misunderstood by everyone around me. I do sweat the small stuff. They can quickly become annoyed when they are reliant on other individuals. At the beginning I was highly motivated, but now not anymore. Go ahead, lie to each other. Well, you never know about wheel of life do you?! Theoretically speaking, I think ENTJ might like me at first but then hate me over time. 'if you are not like everybody else, then you are abnormal, if you are abnormal , then you are sick. Between the two, my life flows. Mainly because they are inherently more emotional than men. It's mostly women, but some men get into it as well. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Do ENTJs and INTPs get along? Now I am reconnecting with myself and honestly, I could give two **** about how they perceive me or getting people to "like" me. The goal in life is winning. You can walk up to an ENTJ and say "what if this happened" they'd probably be like "that is unlikely to happen and therefore your question is useless just like you." Because I wanted to be like them. Everything else pales in comparison. I personally experincesd this my self and i never regret not approving them. Answer (1 of 4): As an ENTJ, what I like most about INTPs is their ability to entertain ideas. This is so true. I do this because my morals say that it is the right thing to do, and I recognize that some people will have a hard time letting go of an issue until someone has acknowledged their mistake. These three categories, not being like everybody else, not being normal and being sick are in fact very different but have been reduced to the same thing', Sexually, the ENTJ is robust, imaginative and enthusiastic. This is extremely hyprocitical in your "Why Everyone Thinks They are INTJ?" For the first time, I found a job, where I "could" contribute my countless talents and ideas. They can be self-absorbed; however, they look that way to others because they are highly complex and have contradictory functions. They have a hard time connecting to the feelings of others, and can become uneasy around them. Why Did I Pick This Book for ENTJs? I am just interested. Chill. 1. Once you master your emotions as an ENTJ, you are unstoppaple to perfection. Im a woman ENTJ and an Aries. In fact, several factors may be the underlying reason behind the clash between ENTJ and INTP personality types. I merely want to ask why you as ENTJ (It was ENTJ, right?) ENTJs are driven toward success in their endeavors. But this trait presents itself very differently in these two personalities. Love language simply refers to how you prefer to receive and give love. In reality I understand my flaws as a person and as an ENTJ I have no plan to ever change them. Any other ENTJ's feel like everyone is a soul less zombie while you're grocery shopping? INTPs are honest and straightforward. Wow Im an ENTJ, and an Aries, and my name is also Mercedes. While he's had a major impact on modern psychology and temperament theory, Jung spent time exploring a LOT of ideas that are clearly nonsense, astrology included. Being the same, Sagittarius and ENTJ well.. I only execute her orders, which is obviously all she wants. Yep, everything was a flaw and fakery until I reconnected with my inner child. MBTI Type. I'm an entj woman and am studying this because of continual problems withfeeling misunderstood. it is sooo hard for me to act myself around my frinds because of my drive and ambition. Thankfully, on the professional front, I've found a comfortable place which allows me to be me and drive, drive, drive! Same here. Most of them at least. The details is always my downfall when it comes to anything, and I'm on my best when I have a person with an SF personality with me. Tried to blend with the girls, failed miserably. Read More Can INFJs Be Self-Centered And Evil?Continue. As for inefficiencies thats my petpeeve lol. For about 10 years, I have been practicing and writing about spirituality, astrology, and self-development. INTPs are often more dependent on their relationships and can become overly involved in close relationships. Although they generally keep to themselves, INFPs may prefer to be alone to foster their creativity and imagination. They admire their partners' energy and social confidence and respect their insights and understanding of what makes people tick. INFP stands for Introverted, Intuitive, Feeling, and Prospecting. If ENTJs have an Achilles heel, it's that they don't sweat the small stuff. INTPs value ENTJs reasoning. Does Journaling Make You Feel Worse? ENTJs like INTPs because we're intelligent and loyal, and because they can make the most of our talents. Till death. Yes, ENTJ and Gemini here. The wing person will handle the other 'useless fluff.' Whitney: I do the same at my work place. I suspect your distrust of it is that it's not Quantified. I find that in talking to her, she gives me most of my ideas for the application of whatever obscure topic I'm studying. INTPs should work toward accepting emotional expressions from ENFJs. I always think rationally and people never really like me in an academic/work environment. INTP The INTP does not like too much detail, preferring a broad-brush stroke approach. Wanna know why I suppress my feelings? I suggest you look at the magnetic fields of our solar system, and the pulls they have on this planet, and on those material beings (humans) who are affected differently by the various pulls. The most unforgivable sin of all, is that there simply are not enough of them to go round. When I express a belief , I qualify it by saying it is my perspective and not subject to your condemnation. Coming from the flip side as an INTJ-A malewith ENTJ spouse, I understand. This makes them quick to argue when the other person does not share the same viewpoint or easily offends the ISTP. The GF left me due to her family not liking me (probably the forcefulness of my personality). I think INTP and ENTJ works well together because the INTP is a logical and rational thinker, and the ENTJ is an artistic doer. These personality types are optimistic and take a creative and unique approach to life, art, interests, and relationships. I have a love/hate relationship with the sheer forcefulness of their personality, it's kinda hot sometimes other times it just feels bossy and overbearing [probably when they're using it on me]. Full disclosure: I'm married to an ENTJ (according to the 16-type personality system developed by Isabel Briggs Myers). I amstrategicallyquickacting. At-Home Workout Routines by Enneagram Type, Libra ENTJ , Minimum Friend (not verified), Enneagram Relationship Compatibility: Type Seven and Type Nine, How You Give Back, Based on Your Enneagram Type. Something not a lot of ENTJs need help with, I would imagine :p. In Aristotle, there's links between God as the "Unmoved Mover," and astrology, with the planets mediating God's "motions" down to Earth. All of these things set me apart from others, but it never made me an outcast. Is there anything you can think of that you'd be willing to lose a game in order to get? Your Ni is deduced, intravenously, from whatevever's cached in your Te/Se satellites. I don't care but I feel like people will see me negatively when that's not what I really mean. People dont. Their hard-working and ambitious nature. And affected consistently. I did the same thing but went into crash mode trying to please others. The only insight I can give is taken from a platonic relationship with vulture. ENTJs are likely to trust INTPs who follow through on tasks and assignments; INTPs should work toward being more consistent and reliable for ENTJs. Consequently, you're always on the edge and you're like walking time bombs with hair trigger tempers. What I'm getting at is that you shouldn't hide your personality type because other people don't like it. It makes conversations trite, it shuts down interesting discussions before I even feel like they've started. Hi there, I am a male but thought could share my thoughts regarding the topic since I am an ENTJ-A personality. I'm an INTP and my mom is an ENTJ. INTPs trust ENTJs better when theyre allowed to be spontaneous and adventurous, not preoccupied with how their ideas and actions will be interpreted. As usual, saying anything against the ENTJ type and Es in general on this forum is resulting in a response by myself.
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